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Post by antiyank on Apr 13, 2007 12:15:45 GMT -5
So is all this religion based on fact or fiction. I mean the bible is a great sit down book for around the camp fire but did it all happen..only in the author(s) minds.
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Post by just me on Apr 13, 2007 12:46:38 GMT -5
Spirituality is something I can most certainly rely on and it's something I definitely relate to....Now some may call it "God" working in mysterious ways....But I don't.
I call it a "Higher" power, perhaps something that is not of this dimension.....Something that keeps everything in line and as it should be. We've all seen movies, that show us what happens if we mess with the "Natural" progression of things. That's kind of how I look at it.
Everything happens for a reason. Everything IS AS IT IS because that is the way it was meant to be.....We make our own destiny, but it is set out for us before we even enter the world......We can deviate from it....Or we can submit to it. Either way, there's only one person who has to answer for the way we lived our lives. YOU/ME/US.
I believe that every single individual is here for a reason. We all have purpose. We all leave our "Mark" our "Footprint."
Be it "Good"....."Bad".....or "Indifferent." We leave that mark and it is meant for people to learn from.....To draw from. To gain fear, strength, wisdom, knowledge or "Hope."
I believe in "Hope."
I believe in "The Power of Positive thinking."
I believe in the power of "Positive & Negative" energy.
I believe in "Belief."
I believe there's a REASON we meet people that we've known for 5 minutes.....And feel like we've known them our whole lives.
I believe that when you see someone who resembles someone you know....Right down to the freckle on their right cheek....That there's a REASON for that.
Energy is a powerful thing....To me it is almost a physical experience. You can FEEL energy.
Ever have someone walk into a room and just suck the life right out of it? That's negative energy. We walk with our own energy.....And the beauty of energy; is that we can change it!!
Ever have someone walk into a room and all of sudden the day seems brighter? That's positive energy.
Life is and can be what we make it.....The little philosophies that I have in my life, are philosophies that I live my life by. I think one of the most difficult TASKS in life, especially at a young age, is really KNOWING yourself. Who you are...What you're about.
Did you ever think about that? Who ARE you REALLY? And what ARE you really about? When someone asks you, "What kind of person ARE you?" Do you really know the answer? Because I can tell you, it usually isn't the very FIRST thing that pops into your head. It's much deeper than that.
One of my philosophies,(albeit a simple one!) that gets me through some of my darkest hours is this:
"I've been through worse.....And I am still here."
For what reason, I don't know.....But that always seems to get me through. I try to draw on past experiences and I just have to believe that I can get through whatever it is that I'm going through.
But when I can't ? Because it seems like I HAVEN'T been through anything worse than "This"? I try with every fiber of my BEING to learn from it....One of the things I really pride myself on, is that I rarely make the same mistake twice. I try very hard to learn from my mistakes and the mistakes of others because I truly believe, that history DOES repeat itself....
I think that there is most certainly a cosmic energy in this world, that allows us to gradually "GET IT"......Some of us wait too long for that moment.....To be what some people refer to as "Comfortable in our own Skin."
We are constantly evolving and changing.....But we can always be seeking answers, in a way that shapes who we are and what we REALLY are about....Never stop learning.....Never stop believing in the power of positive thinking.....Never stop believing that you were put here for a reason.....Be it divine placement or whatever it is you believe.
I think most people live by the same fundamental "Rules." But somewhere.....We got lost. We stopped caring. The unimportant things became TOO important.
Basic "Fundamental" rules are what tie us together.....What sets apart.....Is how important they are to us- and how we relate them to others.
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Post by Snoopy on Apr 13, 2007 14:20:07 GMT -5
Very tricky subject.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2007 15:03:04 GMT -5
Excellent Post JUST ME :
I too believe the bible is a fictional novel , the most read and published but fiction ..you didn't mention anything about your/our/ mine SOULS .. are they our engery , life source if you want to refer to it that way..?
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Post by ladybug on Apr 13, 2007 20:38:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2007 18:10:09 GMT -5
Not quite sure what is meant by the " cheesy grin " but since you left me a choice I'll take it as agreeing ;D
LOL LOL
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Post by Truthknut on May 30, 2007 8:51:43 GMT -5
So is all this religion based on fact or fiction. I mean the bible is a great sit down book for around the camp fire but did it all happen..only in the author(s) minds. Are you just an "anti" or are you for anything? |
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Post by Truthknut on May 31, 2007 12:19:03 GMT -5
So is all this religion based on fact or fiction. I mean the bible is a great sit down book for around the camp fire but did it all happen..only in the author(s) minds. Answer to your question,,,,it is beyond a doubt ALL fiction. For instance how could anyone build a boat big enough to put all thse animals in it??? And just imagine. This great guy "GOD" lets a bunch of bad guys kill his kid. Now maybe he is not the good guy he is supposed to be but it is a great surprise to me that so many people believe in him considering haw many people he has allowed to be killed. Personally I cannot understand how anyone could be a JEW after this guy let 6 million of their people get gassed.This is why I consider all forms of religion B.S. Would you prefer a God that used force, rather than give us a choice? God doesn't play "Cop". |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2007 10:28:44 GMT -5
( now this is my opinion ) I don't know if one can blame god for everything ... Man creates his own problems quite nicely and sometimes all by himself . Even though I don't believe in god I'm sure if he existed , a miracle is loooong over-due .. and would probably get people seeing a different direction.. heck it might even change me ..
...The time-lines in the bible are fuzzy . They say it's past - present - and future ... Every-one was upset over the year 2000 hitting ... nothing happened ... and not much changed .
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Post by Truthknut on Jun 6, 2007 10:23:31 GMT -5
( now this is my opinion ) I don't know if one can blame god for everything ... Man creates his own problems quite nicely and sometimes all by himself . Even though I don't believe in god I'm sure if he existed , a miracle is loooong over-due .. and would probably get people seeing a different direction.. heck it might even change me .. ...The time-lines in the bible are fuzzy . They say it's past - present - and future ... Every-one was upset over the year 2000 hitting ... nothing happened ... and not much changed . Something I have been starting to wonder about. I often state quite clearly that it my belief the whole religion and GOD thing is just a big fantasy and not to be believed. Each time I say this I am told that I am an evil Atheist etc etc etc and am trying to discredit the true believers. Well I now have a question for the believers. Lets say a Muslim now posts to this board saying that what he believes is the only correct version of religion. Lets say he personally believes that Christians are wrong in their interpretation of religion etc etc. What would be your response ?? I would suspect that the Muslim would be treated quite differently than me because although he is critical of Christian beliefs he does have his own form of religion. What I am saying here is that although various religions are often very critical of others even within the same faith such as Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. they have no tolerance what so ever for someone without any belief who says that the whole GOD concept regardless of your label is nothing more than nonsense. Anyone care to comment ? Athiesm is just one more religion. It requires faith (that there is 100% NO God) It also often possesses hostility towards others faiths. You have displayed this numerous times. I have never said you were an evil Athiest, I have only attacked the lack of thought and intellect used in your arguments. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 14:38:43 GMT -5
I agree
ok ..first off .. no different treatment , for it is also a form of religion .
I probably wouldn't agree with it , but they have a right to post their belief .. as would a Catholic , Baptist , Protestant ..etc ..
...Just because I don't believe in god or a form of god , doesn't mean I'm not interested in other peoples beliefs .. just don't say I'm wrong and will surely burn in hell , for if you don't believe in god , then hell doesn't exist either ..
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Post by Truthknut on Jun 7, 2007 7:26:59 GMT -5
Athiesm requires a faith that there is absolutely NO GOD. Whether God exists or not has not been proven.
Agnosticism is the only true non religion. An agnostic doesn't know, and leaves it at that. A Theist or an Athiest can fight, kill etc. for his/her ideal. How can you do that over "I don't know".
We in the Athiest/theist camp have our minds made up and have 'closed the door behind us'. Agnostics have not.
In regards to obsession with sex. That's called being any living organism other than Omoeba, mollusc etc.
Even Athiests have ideals regarding sex.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2007 8:48:50 GMT -5
I would not say that Hell is only for Muslims , I've heard it mentioned in other religions also .. including the one I grew up around ( United ) .
In ancient biblical times Romans offered virgins to the gods , for wealth and prosperity . Aztecs and Incas did the same thing and even traded virgins as a reward in battle . These gods were the Sun , Rain and wind etc. Even Greek mythology mentions these gods
.. People would sacrifice the purest of pure in order to please the gods whether it be human or animal . They believed if they kept the gods happy they would have a bounitful year .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2007 15:03:39 GMT -5
.. just asking here , if traditions and culture can be blamed on religion ? ... in some cases , yes . but in others no . For example : if the 4th full moon of every year a virgin was sacrificed to ensure a prosperous growing season . then which is it ...tradition or religion ?
Abusing women and children in any society should not be allowed , but we hear more about it now than in the past ... I think this is due that we are not going to take it anymore and there are programs to help battered women and children . People tend to report more of these cases to police as outsiders . where as before it had to be the victim. With the new laws that have came out anybody can report victim abuse and they can act on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2007 15:14:58 GMT -5
What's anybody thoughts on PRE-ARRANGED MARRIGES ?
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Post by quaalude on Jun 28, 2007 15:52:32 GMT -5
Weather or Not God is Real or the Bible True , I feel is is our duty as mankind to set Laws and Rules to Live by. I think thats what the Laws of the Bible are about . If you are a good Person at Least your mind can rest in knowing that , after you Sin you have to live with Whatever the Sin is , if you can sleep well good for you , but i always Feel better when i bring good things to the world , I feel good when i help others , if you die and theres nothing , at least you had left good things behind and will be spoken of in a good light . if you are dying and suffering with knowing you was a rotten person , that must truly be like Hell. qc
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Post by sasquatch on Dec 5, 2007 13:57:02 GMT -5
pinoy64
My My. Now that was indeed revealing. An atheist making such a sexist remark......do atheists believe in arranged marriages, and femal circumcision as well?
Just wondered.
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Post by Truthknut on Dec 5, 2007 15:38:50 GMT -5
Athiesm requires a faith that there is absolutely NO GOD. Whether God exists or not has not been proven. Agnosticism is the only true non religion. An agnostic doesn't know, and leaves it at that. A Theist or an Athiest can fight, kill etc. for his/her ideal. How can you do that over "I don't know". We in the Athiest/theist camp have our minds made up and have 'closed the door behind us'. Agnostics have not. In regards to obsession with sex. That's called being any living organism other than Omoeba, mollusc etc. Even Atheists have ideals regarding sex. Atheism is NOT a faith in there NOT being a God. It is a simple acceptance of the fact that if you cannot prove there is one then he does not exist. After you have accepted this you just forget about the whole thing and get on with life. It as simple as that. Only yappy women make something this simple a big deal. Actually it's your intellectual ineptitude I make a big deal of. What makes 'nothing' the default setting? Nature abhors a vacuum. |
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Post by Truthknut on Dec 21, 2007 12:17:39 GMT -5
Actually it's your intellectual ineptitude I make a big deal of. What makes 'nothing' the default setting? Nature abhors a vacuum. Sure takes you a long time to come up with a reply. Been away or just nothing to do but review old postings  IF ......I.........POST slllloooowww, you ...might...understand..... |
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Post by Truthknut on Jan 4, 2008 13:09:25 GMT -5
IF ......I.........POST slllloooowww, you ...might...understand..... If you think as slow as you post it's no wonder your replies take so long. You don't have to be S....lllllow just coherent. Perhaps I don't show up here very often?? You aren't the most challenging of intellects. Boring!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2008 12:28:34 GMT -5
2 words Lorraina Bobbit ...... lol
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Post by proudtobeadp on Mar 18, 2008 19:48:50 GMT -5
I think most people will wait until the planet Mars is really explored and then too is the other side of the moon we never see. Something logical tells us that there may have been planet hopping happening in our part of the solar system. It just seems no accident that we are here on earth!
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Post by Truthknut on Apr 21, 2008 11:25:44 GMT -5
I think most people will wait until the planet Mars is really explored and then too is the other side of the moon we never see. Something logical tells us that there may have been planet hopping happening in our part of the solar system. It just seems no accident that we are here on earth! I have no idea if the "Big Guy" exists or not but what I do know,,,, If he does exist he is the most perverted S.O.B. that has ever existed. Just look at the world and all the misery that has ocured in the last 1000 years in the name of religion !!! My goodness how could anyone believe in that nonsense. So if God exists there can be no other interpretation of his will than organized religion? How could anyone believe in that nonsense?? Tell me, which religion IS the divine word of God so I know which side to be on? |
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Post by 🍁 CDN 🍁 on Jul 17, 2008 7:11:35 GMT -5
Evolution is my religion which makes way more sense then any of the religious views like Adam and Eve. Some great "stories" but that is all they are.
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Post by Truthknut on Jul 17, 2008 11:43:48 GMT -5
Evolution is my religion which makes way more sense then any of the religious views like Adam and Eve. Some great "stories" but that is all they are. No matter what the great story is, evolution, Adam and eve, Great spirit, space aliens, there could still be a supremely powerful being or beings which we would think of as a 'God' or 'gods'. |
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Post by 🍁 CDN 🍁 on Jul 17, 2008 12:17:53 GMT -5
Evolution is my religion which makes way more sense then any of the religious views like Adam and Eve. Some great "stories" but that is all they are. No matter what the great story is, evolution, Adam and eve, Great spirit, space aliens, there could still be a supremely powerful being or beings which we would think of as a 'God' or 'gods'. Yes yes TN I agree there has to be something more than just us piss ant humans but a god from the old testament that I can't swallow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 19:08:24 GMT -5
People tend to fear the unknown ..., therefore religion/god are there comforts zones ...helps them to justify all the mysteries
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Post by Truthknut on Jul 24, 2008 12:00:54 GMT -5
People tend to fear the unknown ..., therefore religion/god are there comforts zones ...helps them to justify all the mysteries Athiesm would be a religion in that case. The existence of God and the intentions of that "God" are an unkown. God would be any being posessing enough power to create our existence. For all we know we could have been created in a lab by "ET" and his buddies. Comfort? Many religions believe God to be quite the 'hard-@ss". |
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Post by sasquatch on Jul 24, 2008 21:55:29 GMT -5
God would be any being possessing enough power to create our existence. For all we know we could have been created in a lab by "ET" and his buddies.
Actually, that creation of existence, is not a prerequisite.
In the South Pacific, I encountered the "cargo cult'.
This is the result of the aboringinal islanders crediting goods washed up on the beach from a wreck etc as the work of GODS.
Indeed, during WW2, many islands were occupied by our military which had had no prvious contact with the modern world. The islanders believed they were GODS. They came with magical things which bull-dozed the jungle, killed at a distance,etc. These Gods didn't fish or hunt, but still ate, and flew through the air---they had to be GODS----These primitives have even cleared crude landing strips and have constructed large straw effigies of aircraft to cause the GODS to return.
Really------to europeans of 1000 years ago, our technology would likely afford us the statis of GODS-------------or DEVILS.
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Post by Truthknut on Jul 25, 2008 12:22:47 GMT -5
God would be any being possessing enough power to create our existence. For all we know we could have been created in a lab by "ET" and his buddies. Actually, that creation of existence, is not a prerequisite. In the South Pacific, I encountered the "cargo cult'. This is the result of the aboringinal islanders crediting goods washed up on the beach from a wreck etc as the work of GODS. Indeed, during WW2, many islands were occupied by our military which had had no prvious contact with the modern world. The islanders believed they were GODS. They came with magical things which bull-dozed the jungle, killed at a distance,etc. These Gods didn't fish or hunt, but still ate, and flew through the air---they had to be GODS----These primitives have even cleared crude landing strips and have constructed large straw effigies of aircraft to cause the GODS to return. Really------to europeans of 1000 years ago, our technology would likely afford us the statis of GODS-------------or DEVILS. Perhaps. The term 'God' is a difficult one to define. As for a supreme intelligence affecting the Universe, that is an unknown. Athiesm and conventional religion are both assumption and belief based on faith. We really have no proof. If one believes the Universe is multi-dimensional that leaves an even larger void for our understanding to lack comprehension of. |
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