DO MORE POLICE MAKE A COUNTRY SAFER OR IS?

[proudtobeadp]

In Manitoba or for that matter the rest of Canada thick in the head? Never has the public ever seen more political promises in elections as Manitoba politicians are making the public when it comes to numbers of police to quell some kind of crime wave! Every one of the leaders is promising more police from 50 to 100 and now 222 more! Manitoba has the highest per capita police prescence in Canada making it a leader in the concept of a police state.

Criminolgists here do not agree with the politicians wanting to be elected or re-elected, these professionals are telling the public that it is poverty and the economy that directly affects crime levels. Manitoba is a have not province with Canada highest concentration of off reserve aboriginals in the city than in the rest of Canada. Are politicians proposing in any way to harness this resource of aboriginal peoples like they weep and knash teeth over why all Manitoba's non-aboriginal youth are leaving Manitoba? No! But lets have more police to enforce the law concerning all these people without saying who they are or what demographic role they are playing in the economy.

The media of course does not help as they focus on what sells the news and if it is not newsworthy they won't report it so it must be that keeping the aboriginal down, poor and crime ridden is in the media interest so they can report crimes. What a mean and vicious circle in this hypocracy known as Canada! How disgusting can things be!

[tag]

Yes, Manitoba is a police state and yes the amount of crime does not justify the expense of all the policing. But what the hell, it isn’t hurting anything except the pocket book a little, and no one has ever found a way to beat the old police state argument, “if you haven’t done anything wrong then what do you have to fear”.
So give it up buddy, you loose.

[sasquatch]

Have you ever noticed that the element which declares that only the Police and Military should have firearms are the element that trusts the Police and Military the least and seek to reduce their budget?

[quaalude]

DO MORE POLICE MAKE A COUNTRY SAFER , yes & No . Let me get this right . out in the open , yes if Police are around it helps . In the dark while jimmy is stealing a Lawnmower & gets shot in the chest by a cop - No it dose more harm . you have to keep the watch on Jimmy or he might get Shot ! *>*qc

[sasquatch]

There is little doubt that a Police presence suppresses crime.

Canada is far from being a Police state. I reside about 100 miles from Sarnia/Port Huron and Queenston/Lewiston and frequently can cover that 100 Miles without sighting Police and yet observe several Police within blocks of US customs......and it continues all the way to Florida.

Police rsponse here has improved from 1/2 and hour to 10 minutes.....but 911 is still "dial-a-prayer."

[damngringo]

The trouble with a large police presense, is, who polices them?

[Deleted]

... interesting point , greed over-powers all ... and that's how corruption starts , even the ones sworn in to uphold the law ...

[concerned1refcaine]

quaalude said:

DO MORE POLICE MAKE A COUNTRY SAFER , yes & No . Let me get this right . out in the open , yes if Police are around it helps . In the dark while jimmy is stealing a Lawnmower & gets shot in the chest by a cop - No it dose more harm . you have to keep the watch on Jimmy or he might get Shot ! *>*qc

quaalude, lets see.......Jimmy the local kid and potsmoking graduate to hashpipe smoking? I think he does abit more than steal Old MacNeally's lawnmower, it seems a few of his potblown headed friends tell Jimmy that the lawnmover of Old Man MacNeally's can be pawned for something like $500 bucks and Jimmy has had a grudge against the old man for a while, but the old man likes him. So Jimmy goes into Old Man MacNeally's pockets the old man's truck keys and chucks the lawnmover on the old man's pickup truck then steals the truck and is about to drive away with it! WHERE'S THE COPS NOW..........THE KID EGGED ON TO STEAL AND HIS FRIENDS NOT GIVING A DAMN!?! Is Old Man MacNeally at fault for shooting that rife or shotgun when his stuff is being stolen, I think not.

[concerned1refcaine]

sasquatch said:

Have you ever noticed that the element which declares that only the Police and Military should have firearms are the element that trusts the Police and Military the least and seek to reduce their budget?

Yessss and you have well intentioned members on a parole board releasing a rapist because his sentenance was nearly served and he had a girlfriend with lawyer intow saying "Bobby will be good from now on and he will be with me! Please give him a chance....we have a 2yrs old kid at home, Bobby promised he would take care of me and the kid." So the parole board releases the rapist, what does the jerk do once freed........?!? He ditches the girlfriend letting her go on Community Services......he moves to New Brunswick and goes to a halfway house to keep within good graces with his parole officer, reporting to the meetings but going out one night and raping another woman! Then he goes out on a rape-wildsex spree that is not controlled untill 3 weeks later when the cops corner him and charge him tossing him finally in the clink. What does the "career rapist" tell the cops, "Well I missed my girlfriend Jenny and had a hardon and needed to get off."

[proudtobeadp]

Actuall if readers read up on the books the "Street Corner Society" and the "Lonely Crowd" and they are all older books that were used in higher education it is not the COPS that make society a safer place, it comes down to society itself without the police that makes it a safer place. When mobsters ruled New York, Chicago and Detroit for instances and the police and judiciary were on the take in tandem there was statictically less crime in those areas where mobsters lived because they had family standards than those areas without.

It is no secret in places traditionally where biker gangs had their homes and clubhouses crime was less because they also had standards of conduct in those neighborhoods about who was doing or not doing what and no not in my back yard are you going to do that!

Go to Calgary and see the separation zone where the Chinese section is and the lands that border it. The Chinese have their own criminal organizations that feed off their own and heaven help any other that thinks they can play on their turf for long because they will be soon gone so there is no compounding of criminal problems and they take care of their own so who needs the cops to do something you can do yourself.

More COPS do not mean a safer society, it boils down to what society is prepared to put up with and that means 95% of the people where that other 5% are those that need to be controlled but are not are the ones that will give society the COPS for one thing only and that is empire building.

[proudtobeadp]

After reading all the Crystal Taman inquiry offered from different media sources the more police there are the more corruption and coverups will happen and go on where citizens lives are not worth a plug nickel to these police thugs and coverup conspirators.

For reader information Crystal Taman was stopped at a red light where an off duty Winnipeg Police Officer who had partied all night slammed his half ton truck in to the rear end of Taman's stopped at a red light car as if the car nor red light was even there killing the woman. The police coverup afterward so the killer who was a cop and now an ex-cop was incredible and exposed for the entire public to see. It is described as more the rule than the exception though Winnipeg Police officers describe her and the incident as the exception but the public know best and are not swallowing any of that BS any more.

[proudtobeadp]

The saying goes that if the criticism wasn't due then why did they go out in campaigns to shoot the messengers?